Apple's FBI case.

RainMotorsports

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I actually hope CA/NY succeed in passing bills to ban sales of phones with unbreakable encryption. It will be the best thing to ever happen in the industry. The laws will be repealed making them much harder to ever pass again. Unlike bills that dont pass and try to get snuck through again and again. The effort involved to repeal a bill often provides an easy finger point stopping new versions of the same idea before they even get off the ground.

A couple of states succeeding wont have an effect on someone like me. They won't even hurt Apple. They will effect the average dumbass that can't or wont cross state lines to buy a new phone for a few months. It will effect the local economy in a bad way. Which will get businesses more involved in lobbying against similar issues so that it never happens again.

Im drunk.
 
RainMotorsports said:
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I'm high

Start with that next time, it will make the read easier, especially the last part. Sentences are complete and excellent spelling, the ideas just seemed to scatter a bit, but they don't, eh what was I reading? JK

I thought the NSA could get into anything, but anyways John McAfee already offered to unlock the phone with his own team and said it can be done in 2 weeks start to finish. Well I thought I remembered 2 but I guess it's 3 weeks now that I looked it up--and if he can't do it in 3 weeks he'll eat his shoe.
 
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so im against all this anyways. im always drunk we know this already. but how is a phone any different than a laptop or desktop that with the proper warrant they are allowed to take and get the files off? shouldnt all electronics be available? playing devils advocate on this one as i agree to privacy but lets be real just cause we didnt have smart phones back when it was written up shouldnt rule them out. and if thats the case ill just keep all my shit on a tablet untill they decide to take that to the courts
 
Random thoughts: The Fappening hacked the iCloud, the Jodi Arias case had texts with actual messages shown as evidence, not just date and time. I'm for privacy too but not when a crime has been committed.

Serious thoughts:
It's likely they communicated something about the federal crime they were going to commit using the phone, so it's evidence.

I've heard the position of Apple, it makes sense but I think privacy is an illusion. For all we know they already have the backdoor software, they're good at keeping company secrets so they can surely keep that secret. Maybe they just don't want us to know, why? I don't know I'm high and don't want to think about it right now.

If they want precedence...what people have searched for has been used against individuals in court, and what was searched was provided by ISPs. That is precedence enough. A provider (Apple) provides data to authorities as evidence.

Cool link here about compromised privacies we might not think about
More scary than horror movies these days: "the US government is alleged to have installed malware onto thousands of networks and placed spy chips into computers, and known to have lost track of weapons it intended to monitor. Would the government really treat firearms as being less worthy of spied upon than telephones?"
 
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well then the question is why can mac books be got into with the proper papers but a phone cant whats apple hiding from us? and how can the fbi not have someone smarter than a fuckin 5th grader working for them that could easily get in to the phone. oh child labor laws. but seriously all apps anymore you have to agree that the app can use your camera record and all that other bullshit they are already in the fucker just trying to tale advantage of a situation
 
BlitZ003 said:
but seriously all apps anymore you have to agree that the app can use your camera record and all that other bullshit they are already in the fucker just trying to tale advantage of a situation
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I hope you aren't paranoid. The permissions system is there for your protection. Back on dumb phoned java apps that wanted to use your microphone or camera didn't ask permission.

In order for an app to take a picture. Which is a function in messenger. You need camera permission. In order to select a picture and send it. You need gallery permissions. In order to record a voice message and send you need microphone permissions. In order to suspend the messenger window when a call comes in it needs call log permissions. Basically you deny these permissions the app becomes a functionless piece of shit that doesn't behave very well when other apps are in use.

The favorite one is why contacts? So you can import contacts.
 
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BlitZ003 said:
so im against all this anyways. im always drunk we know this already. but how is a phone any different than a laptop or desktop that with the proper warrant they are allowed to take and get the files off? shouldnt all electronics be available? playing devils advocate on this one as i agree to privacy but lets be real just cause we didnt have smart phones back when it was written up shouldnt rule them out. and if thats the case ill just keep all my shit on a tablet untill they decide to take that to the courts
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thats not the whole story. And I agree with ayou warrant they should be able to get in. What the FBI wants is Apple to build a backdoor into iphones and give the key to the FBI so they can do it whenever they want, with no warrant
 
SgtKokuei said:
thats not the whole story. And I agree with ayou warrant they should be able to get in. What the FBI wants is Apple to build a backdoor into iphones and give the key to the FBI so they can do it whenever they want, with no warrant
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Well if they get them to do this. Its a precedent not necessarily a way to do it again, although a precedent can be that. I am not familiar with the iphone firmware but from what I have seen and if they did it similar to the PSP, you actually wont be able to load that firmware onto any other phone. Even with factory tools. Now thats assuming they package it keyed for that phone. Something that on say the PSP side occurs only during installation or is only present in backups of the firmware. But without knowledge of their system its entirely up in the air.
 
i cant do this with @RainMotorsports hes far to knowledgeable in this field. i myelf will never tpuch apple products other than with a hammer i hope apple keeps up the good fight so android doesnt have to go through this
 
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