Legal loophole allows new belt-fed AR-15 that sprays bullets like a machine gun

Nothing new with the Slide Fire stocks. Just the belt-fed portion. Looks like this one is fed from the mag well. Past belt-fed AR-15 uppers were fed from left to right.
 
It's left to right, check the end of the video unless they were using the old style. Capitalism will always find a way to get the people what they want. I'm fucking in.
 
cplmac said:
It's left to right, check the end of the video unless they were using the old style. Capitalism will always find a way to get the people what they want. I'm fucking in.
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Ah, you're right. I had to enable shitloads of scripts for the video to load. Anyways, I'm curious about the legal status of these belt-fed uppers. I'd love one myself. Not that I'd ever load more than 7 rounds on it, of course. Not in the NY Police State, at least.
 
If they don't make this illegal, why the fuck don't they just make machine guns legal? What's the difference anymore...
 
HeatSurge said:
If they don't make this illegal, why the fuck don't they just make machine guns legal? What's the difference anymore...
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Like anything else it's the technical details. Technically, this is not a full auto and they'd have to write an addendum or a whole new law, push to get it passed as a law and then wait for it to take affect.

Why don't they make pot legal? Fuck, you get a few congressmen with their panties in a bunch and they have something to live for, I guess.
 
From the story..."In a 2010 letter posted on Slide Fire's website, the ATF wrote: "We find that the 'bump-stock' is a firearm part and is not regulated as firearm under the Gun Control Act or the National Firearms act." Does this mimic the actions of "bumping" a pistol? Anyone have any details on the mechanics?
 
sixer9682 said:
Like anything else it's the technical details. Technically, this is not a full auto and they'd have to write an addendum or a whole new law, push to get it passed as a law and then wait for it to take affect.

Why don't they make pot legal? Fuck, you get a few congressmen with their panties in a bunch and they have something to live for, I guess.
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I understand what makes this legal, but this is a really dumb argument and that kind of stupidity should never hold up in a sane courtroom. The net effect is that you have a fully automatic, belt-fed weapon, and that's all that should matter to anyone.

When they made full auto receivers illegal, do you think they were thinking "oh, we're just being cheeky and having some kind of engineering wank circle discussion so if someone figures out a way around it, we'll just let it slide, *wink wink*." No, they were thinking "we don't want full auto weapons on the street." It doesn't make sense for this to exist legally IMO :-) . Then again, I'm not against full auto weapons although I might imagine if you're in law enforcement you might be a bit concerned about criminal organizations pretty much regularly outgunning you... unless police start carrying uzis or something -_- ...

Then again, it seems like the design is so simple that you wouldn't have problems manufacturing this in your garage. How are they hoping to sell this for $6K again?
 
Heat: it's a legal argument. There's a demand for rapid-firing guns. In this case, it's basically all recreational. It's useless in self-defense because there are additional steps needed to start bump-firing. Still, this stock does nothing but aide the user in bump-firing. The argument can and will hold up that the letter of the law was not broken.

When they made fully automatic firearms illegal, they only banned civilians from owning equal firearms as the military, police, and many security contractors do. It also doesn't matter what LEOs think about this device, since it doesn't really affect them or their daily lives. And if they carry Uzis, they'll be outgunned when compared to anyone with any type of AR-15 variant or AK variant. The police already have access to restricted firearms, after all.

Anyways, the unique part of that gun isn't the bump-fire stock. It's the belt-fed upper receiver that's expensive and rare. $3300 for a conversion. You wouldn't want to use your pencil-barrel or government-profile barrel with it, either. A heavy barrel is the minimum for sustained fire. This makes it more and more impractical for daily usage (but increasingly practical for a prepared defense).
 
Fully autos are NOT illegal. I can go buy on right now if i was willing to do all the paperwork and pay all the taxes

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They might Illegal in certain states with a certain magazine size, like over 30, and if you don't have an FFL or a class III weapons permit.
 
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