ITT Tech?

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Anyone go there? I'm thinking about enrolling for construction management. My back ground is mostly from the construction environment. Which also messed up my back so I can no longer do the work. Will ITT Techs degree get me were I want to be (working) or should I just go to community collage. My last job. I was a line man/fiber tec. I liked it alot and was very good at it. But I can't climb pole's any more or lift a 63 pound lasher 25 feet into the air. Let alone open a 85 pound man hole cover. Does the working world take a degree from ITT serious.
 
Complete rip off from what I have read. There are a number of threads on the net on how they get you started and then crank the fees/rates up considerably as you go along. Their has to be a local college/university/community college around you that would be a better option. Just my two cents.
 
ITT Tech is located all over the place. Sort of like Burger King or McDonald's, but without cheezburger!

I've got to agree with Bob on this one. I'm no expert and have not done any extensive research, but I have heard many times that ITT Tech, DeVry University, and University of Phoenix are the top three rip-off's when it comes to corporate colleges. Take that as you will.

Personally, I would suggest the Community College option. More hands-on approach, more specialized training, and more local resources & local contacts. If you don't like the nearest comm-college, then check out the next nearest one. Sometimes it's worth a little extra gas if you've found what you're looking for.
 
It would make all the difference in the world - if you want a tech type job. (I would go a step further and tell you to go to a dedicated welding school - orbital and robotic type of welding may never meet employer demand)

ITT is a great institution. Do not confuse it with an online college or degree type program(Univ. of Pheonix.)
There are 2 community college in this whole country that I can think of where you stand even a remote chance of learning anything.

I didn't go to ITT - but as a former semi-large emplyer (I currently employ NO-one HOORAY!!!)
People with specialized educations are who we would look for.

That being said - Showing up for work is another special skill employers are looking for - and if you have that ability sell it like hell to a prospective employer.
It is truly fucking amazing that even Harvard educated people can't make it to work.

Showing up and performing is everything.
 
Arturo_Fuente said:
There are 2 community college in this whole country that I can think of where you stand even a remote chance of learning anything.
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That's sort of dismal outlook. Especially since I know firsthand what is taught and learned at least two community colleges just here in the Cleveland area. And people learn and graduate in specialty trades at both of those schools every semester.
 
Arturo_Fuente said:
ITT is a great institution. Do not confuse it with an online college or degree type program(Univ. of Pheonix.)
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Usually a university's reputation preceeds it and doesn't require the budget of ITT tech's advertising department. I am not putting them down at all because if you want to continue you education online, its a very difficult task if you are doing it from your own home.


Sid I would recommend going back to community college. I did a semester at a community college before I transferred to Hofstra. I don't know why community schools get such a bad rap from everyone. Education is something you have to build upon. If you seek it out, become engaged and most importantly apply academic discipline, you can learn a great deal. I dissagree with arturo about his community college statement. You can learn a great deal. The biggest success stories you hear about community schools are from the students who take it seriously devote ALL of their time to their studies and work hard.

I had litterly NO life when I went to Nassau Community College. I viewed it as something temporary and a spring board to get me out of the hole I had burried myself in. It was one of the most demanding and miserable times of my Acedemic life, and I just stuck to business and did what I had to do.


I encourage you to pursue the same option. Go check out the local CC scene, see if they offer a transition into the career you want to pursue. Once you get a picture of what you want to do I highly suggest you aim all your efforts at doing what you have to do to make it happen, whether it be, transfer to a 4 year school and get your BA or BS, or apply for what you want to do that requires a college education.


you could also enlist in the military, if you are looking for a life changing experience for the better, I highly suggest that. They will also assist you with school.
 
sid was asking as a relation to a job
What is currently competitive in the marketplace

**** ITT Tech is not an online univesity - you have to go to class

*** Was created as the educational services division of ITT - ITT still the largest owner.

... sure Community College as a stepping stone into a 4 year degree type program is fine - totally different scenaro - as a stand alone job training resource - they suck ass

"manufacturing" isn't even close to what it was - even 10 years ago - across all classes of business

If you are a specialized electrician in some places you will earn more than a lawyer. Easy!
 
Arturo_Fuente said:
sid was asking as a relation to a job
What is currently competitive in the marketplace

**** ITT Tech is not an online univesity - you have to go to class

*** Was created as the educational services division of ITT - ITT still the largest owner.

... sure Community College as a stepping stone into a 4 year degree type program is fine - totally different scenaro - as a stand alone job training resource - they suck ass

"manufacturing" isn't even close to what it was - even 10 years ago - across all classes of business

If you are a specialized electrician in some places you will earn more than a lawyer. Easy!
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ITT tech has nothing to do with the company ITT.
 
razorbackx said:
Sgt.SID said:
Anyone go there? I'm thinking about enrolling for construction management.

constuction management ask my brother that just graduated fron UF find another field hahahaha
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Thanks guy's. After what razorbackx said I'm back to square one. Well I'll have to check out the CC. I can't see myself going to ITT for one thing and it not working (work being the key word) out at the end. Razorbackx did your brother do any type of construction before? Or is he fresh out of school with no experience. Thanks again guy's. Been throwing this back and fort.
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Razor, UF Construction management has treated several of my friends very well. They started off in shit jobs but, with that degree, quickly moved into major roles and three of my five friends from that school have their own commercial businesses. And Arturo, they show up and bust their ass daily.

Sid, a CC can be very good or very bad. As a stepping stone for getting into Bachelor degrees they all serve their purpose, but some have specialty programs on the more practical side. If you do a little digging on their site you can get a good feel for what they have and feel free to drop in and ask them what they have to offer. I have been involved at CC's as a student, tutor, and was set to be an adjunct professor before deciding on advanced high schools instead. The best thing you can do with the CC is go there and see what you think. Make them talk to you, ask about job placement services, etc. Then go to your local ITT and do the same.

I always told my students that no matter what school you go to, you must be comfortable with the place. In your case I would suspect the most important elements would be your comfort with the instruction and their placement services.
 
Thanks Chuck. Thats exactly what I had in mined. I like to hear people talk and can tell if it's a sales person blowing smoke or the real deal. I'm sure Razor's brother had little to no experience. I've been in the feild for over 8 years now. I've ran crew's and worked alone. Today they want to see that degree and the work experience.
 
I own a consulting/project management/general managers construction business in nyc.

1. Business is terrible, if this year is the same as last year I will close doors and get into the porno industry. Recession proof!

2. The last person I hired was 2 years ago. For the last 2 years I've only laid off people.

3. Competition for the available openings in construction management is insane, most employers take advantage of that, and even extremely qualified employees make shit nowadays. Also 12 + hours a day is the norm. ( for a fixed salary - no overtime paid)

4. A degree means shit in the real world, unless you are in your twenties and are prepared to be abused for a couple of years. The most important factor in hiring a manager in the construction industry is experience. Dealing with contractors and sub-contractors is the main issue.
In another lifetime I owned a textile plant/ private label design business in Brooklyn. Let me tell you, dealing with 55 women employees on PMS was much better then dealing with contractors. I dread to go on the field and spend most of my time in the office. If somebody tells me over the phone " do not worry" or " tomorrow" is one thing. Last time I heard that in person I almost strangled the guy.

5. I do know a couple of welders who make 6 figures. Arturo is right.
 
mega02 said:
I own a consulting/project management/general managers construction business in nyc.

1. Business is terrible, if this year is the same as last year I will close doors and get into the porno industry. Recession proof!

2. The last person I hired was 2 years ago. For the last 2 years I've only laid off people.

3. Competition for the available openings in construction management is insane, most employers take advantage of that, and even extremely qualified employees make shit nowadays. Also 12 + hours a day is the norm. ( for a fixed salary - no overtime paid)

4. A degree means shit in the real world, unless you are in your twenties and are prepared to be abused for a couple of years. The most important factor in hiring a manager in the construction industry is experience. Dealing with contractors and sub-contractors is the main issue.
In another lifetime I owned a textile plant/ private label design business in Brooklyn. Let me tell you, dealing with 55 woman's employees on PMS was much better then dealing with contractors. I dread to go on the field and spend most of my time in the office. If somebody tells me over the phone " do not worry" or " tomorrow" is one thing. Last time I heard that in person I almost strangled the guy.

5. I do know a couple of welders who make 6 figures. Arturo is right.
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Try a new business. You can do sub-contracting for the cable company. Here's a look at my old company. We did Coax, fiber, aerial, underground and splicing.
Universal Cable Constr Inc Business Information


<TABLE class=table-data summary=""><TBODY><TR><TH>Location Type</TH><TD>Single Location</TD></TR><TR><TH>Annual Sales (Estimated)</TH><TD>$5 to 10 million
</TD></TR><TR><TH>Employees (Estimated)</TH><TD>20 to 49 </TD></TR><TR><TH>SIC Code</TH><TD>178102, Drilling & Boring Contractors </TD></TR><TR><TH>NAICS Code</TH><TD>237110, Water & Sewer System Construction</TD></TR><TR><TH>Products, Services and Brands</TH><TD>Information not found </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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