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Deploymentking

Deploymentking

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Ok I have been looking into WOCS for some time now. I would like some input from you guys. Some of you may have no idea what I'm talking about. Warrant Officer Candidacy School.

My question really doesn't go with WOCS but basic interaction with a WO and perception of their duties and execution of their commands. Just looking at my options here. My AF enlistment is almost up.
 
I was selected fpr the WO program in the USMC, but got out (later recalled for DS 1). We had loads of respect for WO's, given that you had to be at least a Sgt to be eligible for selection and most were SSgt or GySgt before becoming Wo. They were the experts on areas. The Army has WO's that start as WO (I think mostly pilots?). Is there a possibility to become an LDO (limited Duty Officer, i.e. commissioned) later? I think yo would really enjoy it and the added pay.
 
Not really wanting to be a whirly bird pilot. Yeah it's fun but I think the military could take something so utterly cool and fuck it up with regs and constant training bs.
 
I deal with Warrant Officers every day. Most of them are shammers but there are the few that show you what a real one is supposed to be. In the army WO's are supposed to be the "quiet professional" and be subject matter experts in their fields but IMO that rarely is the case.
 
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WO's are supposed to be the "quiet professional" and be subject matter experts in their fields
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I made Warrant Officer 2nd Class in the Air Cadets as a teenager. This description is perfect. In fact, I think while I was getting in shit from a CO, he mentioned those very words to me.
 
Not sure how it works in the states, but Warrant Officers in the reserves here are well respected and seem to know their shit.
 
GO ARMY WOCS,

Here is a run down of your responsibilities because I looked into WOCS before my commission contract:

General:

as a warrant officer, you are a senior enlisted Officer, although you are not a RLO real live officer, you serve the duties and responsibilities that the Army feels that they need more specialized personnel to concentrate on their field of expertise.

Aviation:
If you decide to go WOCS and are directed for Flight school, your primary job will be to fly helicopters as well as a great deal of other small responsibilities depending on what Job you are placed in when you arrive at your unit. You will most likely be a WO2 pilot for a while, and you will rack up a great deal of flight hours flying with a CW whatever as part of flight or section. Just as always if you prove to be more competent and professional than your peers then company staff could place you in a position of more responsibility, I leave it open ended.

the Army takes care of you as a WO, you have a pretty cool job if all you want to do is Fly. there are some other duties involved in making the flying part happen. Basically you work with your PLT or flight leader, aka 2LT or 1LT whoever to make sure the needs of the days/weeks/months training is completed. you are for the better lack of things an officer who hangs in limbo between a commission, and senior NCOship.

GO Army WOCS,

then we can go to flight school together, and you can be my co-pilot.
 
in the Air Force we had the people who did all the work, airmen, and people who take all the credit, officers.
 
:-) Become a pilot, if you are not afraid of heights it is the best job in the world
 
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GO ARMY WOCS,

Here is a run down of your responsibilities because I looked into WOCS before my commission contract:

General:

as a warrant officer, you are a senior enlisted Officer, although you are not a RLO real live officer, you serve the duties and responsibilities that the Army feels that they need more specialized personnel to concentrate on their field of expertise.

Aviation:
If you decide to go WOCS and are directed for Flight school, your primary job will be to fly helicopters as well as a great deal of other small responsibilities depending on what Job you are placed in when you arrive at your unit. You will most likely be a WO2 pilot for a while, and you will rack up a great deal of flight hours flying with a CW whatever as part of flight or section. Just as always if you prove to be more competent and professional than your peers then company staff could place you in a position of more responsibility, I leave it open ended.

the Army takes care of you as a WO, you have a pretty cool job if all you want to do is Fly. there are some other duties involved in making the flying part happen. Basically you work with your PLT or flight leader, aka 2LT or 1LT whoever to make sure the needs of the days/weeks/months training is completed. you are for the better lack of things an officer who hangs in limbo between a commission, and senior NCOship.

GO Army WOCS,

then we can go to flight school together, and you can be my co-pilot.
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SOLD
I already hang in limbo now but without the pay. I'm in charge of all sorts of fuck ups and have to rip kids' asses all day for being fucktards. As far as being a flight WO I don't know yet. I am leaning towards it because well why sell myself short and suprisingly I'm a big CH47 fan. I know I know. Big slow helo, but if something goes wrong I've got 36 people behind me to put down some suppressive fire.
 
Ok so unless I make a few WO friends on this upcoming trip to the sandbox I won't be able to go WO. Apparently you need a written recommendation from 2 WOs and well I don't know 2 WOs well enough to get a letter. So here's to hoping that I make super awesome friends who can write legibly.

If that falls through then I'm gonna 31B it. Yeah I know everyone will hate me but at least i won't have to be a cage kicker (31E). I do get to keep my E-5 though so that'll be nice. Thoughts.....Discuss......
 
Shit, I thought they phased out WO in the Air Force with Buck Sgt. I never seen a WO the time I was in the AF. I seen Army, Navy and Marine WO but no AF.

My question is wtf do they do in the AF? Airmen done all the work, NCO's handled the paperwork and Officers went to meetings and played golf. Where to WO come in?
 
Oh no it's not WO in the AF. Yeah there's no gray ground with us. I'm gonna go from AF to Army. You know my life just doesn't suck up to my expected level of suck and I bet the Army can deliver that level of suck I need.

I'm tired of being told "I'm too fit and Im making the other people in the squadron look bad" yeah that seriously happened. That and having a prefect qual card and never getting to use my skill. I'm tired of having to ask to go outside the wire and basically I joined the wrong branch. Yes it was great and I got my bearings and learned a whole damn lot, alot of stuff that I can't use. The USAF taught me how to do a HALO jump but has given me nothing to use it with. AF is more about politics than action. I need action.
 
Hey King, just do a small amount of brown nosing to get the recommendations. Not too much, don't want to become a suck up. Besides, I would think that they would recognize quality work and good leadership, so you should not have a problem.
 
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I'm tired of being told "I'm too fit and Im making the other people in the squadron look bad" yeah that seriously happened.
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HAHA! Only in the fuckin air force. Strive for mediocrity.
 
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