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Snakebabies

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Okay fellas....Ive had my current rig for about 4 years now, and im looking to upgrade(when i get back)....


I imagine a couple advancements will be made in the next 7 months or so, are there any thing(components) I should keep my eyes out for in the near future??
 
I got your message but its like any build kinda hard to tell you what to buy. I can more easily tell you what not to buy. Ive seen some silly builds lately telling people to get shit video cards that will barely play BF4 on medium in 1080p.

Right now were getting some new top end offerings in video cards. Other than that nvidia is shoving some rebrands down the line which will actually work out good for some of us price for performance wise but not quite what we expected.

Got a new generation of intel cpu's coming out soon. That to me would be worth the wait but video cards right now nothing fantabulous coming out on a budget.
 
The Sabertooth Z77 board and i7-2700k is a rock solid combo and the chip is kind of a bargain, the board becoming more so. Get a beefy power supply, the one thing computers seem to never do is require less power as they advance. SSD SSD SSD SSD SSD, can't say that enough.
 
Get a beefy power supply, the one thing computers seem to never do is require less power as they advance.
While we would all agree get a beefy power supply. I would disagree on computers needing more power. Quite the opposite. The average person has changed their PC to need more power than it ever did. Multiple GPU's, a ton of drives, cooling you name it it consumes a ton of power. But once you have a system like that the next upgrade of comparable equipment will end up using less power.

When it comes to next gen CPU's they actually are going doing in power consumption each generation for a given category. High performance offerings WILL surface consuming great deals of power but these are usually insane items not inline with something from the previous generation.
Hate to use Toms but alot of the other charts are out of date:
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Notice the i7-2600K/2700K use less power than their counterparts such as the socket 1156 i7-870. Now thats just a comparison between 2 consumer oriented models. The i7-2700K's performance greatly exceeds even the server to consumer oriented 1366 platform offerings like the i7-960 which consumer glorious amounts of power. Going yet another generation newer not seen in this chart the 3770K is rated for 77 watts TDP while the 2700K is rated for 95 TDP. In theory they both consume less than that and can consume more but the next generation continues to sip less power.

Graphics cards on the other hand are an interesting animal. Often times a model category is aimed to stay under a certain amount of power and not necessarily use much less than the generation before. But the continuing drop in process size and efficiency gained in new architectures tend to naturally still do this.
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It would seem early tests indicate the GTX 780 is set to consume about the same amount of power as the GTX 580. Most of the cards in this particular chart either consume less power or about the same as their equivalent from a generation or two ago.

There is little wrong with going with more power than needed. The PSU will last longer, the efficiency is often at its best half way in and you will have room to expand. But unless your using more GPU's and more storage devices every year, computers tend to use less power as they advance.
 
Ehh, well I dont plan on getting more storage device and gpus every year....figure if this new machine will last me as long as the one i have now, im in good shape
 
Ehh, well I dont plan on getting more storage device and gpus every year....figure if this new machine will last me as long as the one i have now, im in good shape

I went 750 watt because I figured I was gonna do dual 580's. Ended up doing the 570 single. Both CPU and GPU overclocked and overvolted pull 370 watts from the wall (less DC draw on the PSU you have to figure in AC to DC efficiency) put me in a great spot. Thats with 5 mechanical hard drives a sound card and some fans. Most single GPU builds can easily be handled by a decent 650 watt PSU. Reliability is usually the thing to worry about when picking though. Clean power is very important in computing especially with overclocking.

I would talk to Balls, Sixer, Renno on power concerns if your water cooling. Ive never looked into it very much.
 
Well, my rig now is watercooled, but the new case has room for like 7 fans so cooling shouldnt be an issue...depending on temps I get from overclocking, I may take a couple fans out to mount my liquid cooling system....but even in overclocking the GPU i have in my current rig(HD radeon 6870 1gb), i cant imagine too much power drainage...i have a 700 or 750w currently..havent had any issues with lack of juice, or over heating. One day i turned the GPU wide open and it started getting hot...that was about it..turned fans up and had no issues.
 
now these SSDs, do you want to have them as a secondary or primary memory?
 
definitely grab a sandy/ivy bridge cpu because MOBO's should be cheap with the new haswell chips out. Grab a 700 series Nvidia. 8-16gb ram (16 is almost too much) and an SSD. That should last you another 4, if not more, years.
 
Depends on the size of the SSD and your particular performance goals. Putting the OS on a HDD and your games and especially the page file on your SSD could then give you a good boost while freeing up space for all your shitty games. Otherwise, if you have the room (>400GB in my case), put both the OS and games on the SSD.
 
word...Ive been browsing, plan on getting something near 512 +/-...cant see me ever needing more than that. with an HDD as well. it's all falling into place, just need time to pass and some more research on actually building this one...I am tired of spending extra money on machines to have someone else assemble it.
 
480-512GB should be enough. It might come close to breaking the bank though--you're looking at $250+ for a single drive. I'd suggest you then add a second hard drive for the more menial programs and files. A 4TB drive is surprisingly inexpensive--and just large enough to store your gay porn and bestiality collection.
 
yea, I have a 2tb hdd and a 2tb external! plenty to store the NONgay porn and shit ton of music. yea, first time i browsed for ssd, went to like 1-2tb, and was like WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
the gay porn and bestiality belongs to Farstar, sixer, etc..etc...
 
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