US soldier released by Taliban

This is fucking enraging. I'm happy we got him back and he's going to be a valuable intelligence source, but....Why the FUCK could we not trade 5 fucking savages for his release 5 fucking years ago? I'll tell you why, because the administration is in "holy shit make it stop" crisis mode and they needed something to flip the script. FUCK t his piece of shit adm I nitrate and the fucking traitors running the DOD, Odierno, Hazel I'm looking at you scumbags.
 
Politics aside (I completely agree with you cplmac) I'm glad he's free. Hopefully his debrief will lead to some targets.
 
Fuck this deserter/defector. He shoulda stayed there the rest of his life. That's what he wanted.
 
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Fuck this deserter/defector. He shoulda stayed there the rest of his life. That's what he wanted.
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I thought thinking this was the start to thebplot of homeland was bad... Never mind :p

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I thought thinking this was the start to thebplot of homeland was bad... Never mind :p

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He told his Dad that he was ashamed of being an American. Soon after he sneaks off base without his gear or weapon and goes looking for the Taliban so he can join them.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-hero-or-a-deserter/

Here's a post I found a while back by someone who purported to have been in his unit. I can't coraobrate its authenticity, but it falls in line with the reports that have come out. This is why it took us 5 years. The military was pretty damned sure he was a deserter too. The gov is only playing this card now because of the VA scandal.

"We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife.
We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did.
It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl.
Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities.
The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth.
Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday."
 
I have heard that but don't wan t to for sure it, his debrief will tell all and I suspect he will not be outed by the government either way because the whole reason he is free now is their need for a win and trading 5 Gitmo terrorists for a traitor is NOT a win. Well it might be in universities around America.
 
Wow! Look at who we released for this dirtbag:

Mullah Mohammad Fazl (Taliban army chief of staff): Fazl is “wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites.” Fazl “was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and Coalition forces including al Qaeda, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), and an Anti-Coalition Militia group known as Harakat-i-Inqilab-i-Islami.” In addition to being one of the Taliban’s most experienced military commanders, Fazl worked closely with a top al Qaeda commander named Abdul Hadi al Iraqi, who headed al Qaeda’s main fighting unit in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 and is currently detained at Guantanamo.

Mullah Norullah Noori (senior Taliban military commander):Like Fazl,Noori is “wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.” Beginning in the mid-1990s, Noori “fought alongside al Qaeda as a Taliban military general, against the Northern alliance.” He continued to work closely with al Qaeda in the years that followed.

Abdul Haq Wasiq (Taliban deputy minister of intelligence): Wasiq arranged for al Qaeda members to provide crucial intelligence training prior to 9/11. The training was headed by Hamza Zubayr, an al Qaeda instructor who was killed during the same September 2002 raid that netted Ramzi Binalshibh, the point man for the 9/11 operation. Wasiq “was central to the Taliban's efforts to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S. and Coalition forces after the 11 September 2001 attacks,” according to a leaked JTF-GTMO threat assessment.

Khairullah Khairkhwa (Taliban governor of the Herat province and former interior minister): Khairkhwa was the governor of Afghanistan’s westernmost province prior to 9/11. In that capacity, he executed sensitive missions for Mullah Omar, including helping to broker a secret deal with the Iranians. For much of the pre-9/11 period, Iran and the Taliban were bitter foes. But a Taliban delegation that included Kharikhwa helped secure Iran’s support for the Taliban’s efforts against the American-led coalition in late 2001. JTF-GTMO found that Khairkhwa was likely a major drug trafficker and deeply in bed with al Qaeda. He allegedly oversaw one of Osama bin Laden’s training facilities in Herat.

Mohammed Nabi (senior Taliban figure and security official): Nabi “was a senior Taliban official who served in multiple leadership roles.” Nabi “had strong operational ties to Anti-Coalition Militia (ACM) groups including al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and the Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), some of whom remain active in ACM activities.” Intelligence cited in the JTF-GTMO files indicates that Nabi held weekly meetings with al Qaeda operatives to coordinate attacks against U.S.-led forces.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/taliban-five-guantanamo_736892.html
 
Look if you are still in Gitmo you are a fucking legit bad guy. Obama fast tracked releasing all but the absolute worst. There is a reason a guy who ran for office on closing Gitmo has not yet done so, because he was ignorant and discovered as President that there were evil savages in there. The recidivism rate of released detainees is fucking terrible, and these were the ones deemed "safe to release".
 
I can't fault the kid for having ideals that changed his perspective, leaving his post was the absolute wrong thing to do but I haven't walked a mile in his shoes to see what he has seen. I can't fault a young person for having the wrong ideals and making bad decisions. I can almost certainly know that he regrets doing what he did everyday. I will not shun him or push for a punishment on him, I just want him home. He can be whatever he wants to be anti-war or pro-war. He can be a fucking vegan for all I care. Welcome home.
 
MahJa said:
I can't fault the kid for having ideals that changed his perspective, leaving his post was the absolute wrong thing to do but I haven't walked a mile in his shoes to see what he has seen. I can't fault a young person for having the wrong ideals and making bad decisions. I can almost certainly know that he regrets doing what he did everyday. I will not shun him or push for a punishment on him, I just want him home. He can be whatever he wants to be anti-war or pro-war. He can be a fucking vegan for all I care. Welcome home.
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The kid joined the infantry. What did he think he'd be doing? He was only in country a month before he deserted. You can't even get unpacked in a month.
Oh..and he was in ballet school.
 
What the fuck do you know about what he did while there? Absolutely, fucking, nothing.
 
MahJa said:
What the fuck do you know about what he did while there? Absolutely, fucking, nothing.
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That he was there for one MONTH before he deserted. What I DO know, is he hardly had time to unpack his gear. I DO know, that members of his unit have said he was a piece of shit. I DO know, that I was in country when this shit happened and everyone was searching for his dumb ass. I DO know that he was a fucking hippy who should never have joined in the first place. I DO know, that at least 6 or more soldiers were killed because of him.
You can spin it any way you want. Last I checked, desertion in a time of war carries the death penalty.

http://wikileaks.org/afg/event/2009/06/AFG20090630n1790.html
 
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Almost nothing carries the death penalty anymore BOT, shit Bradley fucking Manning not only didn't get the death penalty that he deserved, he's getting fucking gender re-assignment surgery on the tax payers dime. The fucking piece of trash should be executed, not rewarded and treated as some special new class of minority. If the stories are true about Berghdal I would hope that the DOD would prosecute him for desertion and possibly giving aid and comfort to the enemy, but that's not how Democrats roll. They roll John Kerry/Jane Fonda deep. Scumbag or not I'm glad to see our only POW the ENTIRE war come back stateside, now I want to see all this other stuff cleared up. I hope it's not true.

On another note, when are we going to impeach this guy?
"A senior administration official, agreeing to speak on the condition of anonymity to explain the timing of the congressional notification, acknowledged that the law was not followed. When he signed the law last year, Obama issued a signing statement contending that the notification requirement was an unconstitutional infringement on his powers as commander in chief and that he therefore could override it."
Good lord is this twat in trouble if Republicans take the Senate.
 
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Wow! Look at who we released for this dirtbag:

Mullah Mohammad Fazl (Taliban army chief of staff): Fazl is “wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites.” Fazl “was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and Coalition forces including al Qaeda, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), and an Anti-Coalition Militia group known as Harakat-i-Inqilab-i-Islami.” In addition to being one of the Taliban’s most experienced military commanders, Fazl worked closely with a top al Qaeda commander named Abdul Hadi al Iraqi, who headed al Qaeda’s main fighting unit in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 and is currently detained at Guantanamo.

Mullah Norullah Noori (senior Taliban military commander):Like Fazl,Noori is “wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.” Beginning in the mid-1990s, Noori “fought alongside al Qaeda as a Taliban military general, against the Northern alliance.” He continued to work closely with al Qaeda in the years that followed.

Abdul Haq Wasiq (Taliban deputy minister of intelligence): Wasiq arranged for al Qaeda members to provide crucial intelligence training prior to 9/11. The training was headed by Hamza Zubayr, an al Qaeda instructor who was killed during the same September 2002 raid that netted Ramzi Binalshibh, the point man for the 9/11 operation. Wasiq “was central to the Taliban's efforts to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S. and Coalition forces after the 11 September 2001 attacks,” according to a leaked JTF-GTMO threat assessment.

Khairullah Khairkhwa (Taliban governor of the Herat province and former interior minister): Khairkhwa was the governor of Afghanistan’s westernmost province prior to 9/11. In that capacity, he executed sensitive missions for Mullah Omar, including helping to broker a secret deal with the Iranians. For much of the pre-9/11 period, Iran and the Taliban were bitter foes. But a Taliban delegation that included Kharikhwa helped secure Iran’s support for the Taliban’s efforts against the American-led coalition in late 2001. JTF-GTMO found that Khairkhwa was likely a major drug trafficker and deeply in bed with al Qaeda. He allegedly oversaw one of Osama bin Laden’s training facilities in Herat.

Mohammed Nabi (senior Taliban figure and security official): Nabi “was a senior Taliban official who served in multiple leadership roles.” Nabi “had strong operational ties to Anti-Coalition Militia (ACM) groups including al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and the Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), some of whom remain active in ACM activities.” Intelligence cited in the JTF-GTMO files indicates that Nabi held weekly meetings with al Qaeda operatives to coordinate attacks against U.S.-led forces.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/taliban-five-guantanamo_736892.html
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They know exactly where these guys are. I believe they are in some detention place in Qatar...for now

I suspect they did the trading to get Intel from the guy released.
 
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