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sixer9682

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I'm not trying to provoke any reactions by anybody, but I thought it interesting that the "don't ask don't tell" policy is coming to and end, officially anyway.

Obama expressed fine sentiments with the following remarks, but whether or not reality reflects the ideals remains to be see; let's hope so:

IT is time to recognize that sacrifice, valor and integrity are no more defined by sexual orientation than they are by race or gender, religion or creed. It is time to allow gay and lesbian Americans to serve their country openly.
 
For me it's meh. I'm not in an Infantry unit or line unit where I'm in close quarters with other men anyway.
 
I can't speak for everyone but it's not that big of deal. Iv'e had tons of people ask me at work the past week (knowing I was retired military) what my thoughts were. Now we are all a bunch of homophobes but at the same time most of the people that were gay in the military were not the extreme flaming type. Another words, you never knew they were gay. Never bothered me any... If you can do the job, tow the line and stand a post your a straight shooter in my book.
 
Its a doubled edged sword of equal opportunity and professional drama. I honestly think that it is going to be a challenge for the Senior and Junior leaders. The military caters to people from all walks of life, but a considerable percentage of the active force derives their roots from southern states, where open homosexuality is not as culturally acceptable as it is in major US cities such as New York, Chicago, and Seattle. There is going to be a major adjustment for a lot of people. I question how flamboyant gay men are going to act in a combat arms unit where professionalism, and observing good military order and discipline are high on the food chain I question their ability to be socially functional in an all male capacity and I will not pass judgment until I have observed that behavior. Ultimately I never saw a reason for homosexuals, not able to serve. It shows a great deal of selflessness and patriotism to put on the uniform, something that if someone is willing to do it should not be restricted by sexual orientation. However, with a war going on and the economy wigging out, I don't think we need to be worrying about military policy, we have bigger fish to fry, and apparently since our President is completely useless he needs something to put on his resume for Popeyes Chicken after he gets voted out besides the SMART treaty.
 
DADT was little more than a way for people to washout if they didn't find military life to their liking. There is a way to integrate gays into the military openly, but not the way they intend to do it. Doing it properly would change the logistic core of the military, which is perfectly doable. You need segregation for the gays in boot camp and in the barracks. I never met a flamer while I was in the service, and I'm certain I served with a fag or two so it's plausible that this could work. Unfortunately they have already said they have no intention of setting up separate billeting or any of the other necessary logistics to make this transition smooth. What they are going to do is fundamentally change the culture of the military by force, essentially just telling everyone to fuck off and live with it and god help you if you offend someone. They really need to take an actual survey of the force to see where the culture of the military is at, maybe it's ready for this, but the joke survey they sent out before is nothing more than a cooked book. I find it disturbing that the Presidents who are most hostile to the military seem to always be the ones making fundamental changes to it. I'm not necessarily opposed to repealing DADT, but I'm opposed to this mongoloid being the one to do it.
 
Remember: domestic and military measures must pass Congress. The president can say whatever he wants on domestic policy but he can do nothing without Congress. The only place a president has tremendous sway is in foreign policy, and even there it needs 2/3 of the Senate. And I disagree that Obama is hostile to the military -- say what you want, but his policies are not anti-military. This is a man that told the Nobel (an undeserved award in my book but a measure of how distasteful Bush's policies during his first six years in office were to the rest of the world) committee that a strong military is necessary to peace.
 
Words, just words. I'll take actions over them any day, and his actions say fuck you military you deserve what I give you and that's that. From dismantling the missile defense projects, to eliminating the F-22 program to repealing DADT. The ONLY substantial budget cuts he has made, have been chainsawed out of the DOD. I'm sure that's just his way of saying how much he cares and appreciates the uniformed services... As far as needing congress to repeal DADT, keep in mind this has been a borderline supermajority congress of his peers for the past two years, they are like minded and are passing this now because they knew he would sign it and they went and got themselves shitcanned.

PS:
The Nobel booby award jumped the shark about a decade ago. It's an absolute joke that really only Swedes even remotely consider important.
 
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